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<blockquote>I am core ColdFusion developer and I started my career as ColdFusion developer only . I am thankful to Adobe in my career , I got an opportunity to work on different versions of ColdFusion.<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.3/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="??" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></blockquote>

Comment by sachind989076

And I've been using ColdFusion all this time. 25 years. Sheesh!

Comment by Peter Tilbrook

Great, but why Adobe doesn't use ColdFusion on it's own website? Newsroom page is written in ASP.

Comment by Bartosz Go??biowski

<p>Perhaps because Adobe is a huge corporation, and different parts of its hundreds of web sites are built by different teams, and may have been acquired or purchased, or may be off the shelf software?</p><p>Indeed, I have no doubt that some of the people involved in such sites don’t even know if CF exists, let alone that it's an Adobe product (Adobe has had hundreds of products, so they could be forgiven that).</p><p>And even if the team responsible for that newsroom site knew of CF, would it make sense for them to rewrite it? To acquire the skills to do that rewrite? To spend that time? Are we really in a place to judge that? And seriously, would more than a few people even notice or care? </p><p>Is it really a zero-sum game? Isn’t it OK if most or all of Adobe’s sites don’t use cf? Is its viability determined by whether it’s used on every Adobe site? I really don’t think so.</p><p>Of course, that’s just my opinion. I do realize some are always looking for ways to ridicule Adobe, whatever they may do. Maybe your question was sincere. I offer this sincere response, for whatever it may be worth to readers.</p>

Comment by Charlie Arehart

<p>My question was sincere. Maybe I am stupid, I was just wondering how to convince customers to use some product if it’s maker uses products made by competition?</p><p>btw: why the latin extended is not working here?</p>

Comment by Bartosz Go??biowski

I appreciate the sincerity in your question, Bartosz. But seriously, if anyone considering buying CF were to notice that some "newsroom" page (within the immensity of the Adobe site) is running ASP.NET, and they chose to let that influence their buying decision (above all other reasons to use CF, documented on that site and elsewhere), then there's perhaps nothing else that can be done to influence them. And I can't see it being a reason that someone will compel the team behind that newsroom site to change their tech. Again, it's not a zero-sum game. Will such a person only buy a car from a dealer where all the staff drive a car from that maker? Will they eat in a restaurant only if all the staff eat their meals there? Even if some car dealers or restaurants require such loyalty, must all? Finally, regarding your concern about the latin extended font, I could point out that this is not likely "Adobe's fault", because the blogging software behind this portal is not written in CFML but an off-the-shelf package, but I'm not sure how you'll take it. :-) It's in fact a VERY popular blogging/cms package that runs on a certain 3-letter language--but you wouldn't notice that because like most modern web sites, the underlying tech is no longer apparent. And FWIW, my understanding is that Adobe uses that blogging software (on more than just this CF portal) for the simple fact that it's so very popular, widely supported, and comes with many features. Are there CFML-based blog packages? Sure. But Adobe the company (rather than the CF team) has made the choice of what package to standardize on. Business do that, and they sometimes have to do that even if it means losing face for not always "eating their own dog food". As we celebrate CF's 25th anniversary, and the pending release of its 19th edition, I'll say that concerns like this are almost as old as it is. And being as mature a product as it is, there will always be things about which to quibble. But there are equally many (many, many) more things about it "to convince customers to use" the product. This blog, the CF site, the CF docs, and many community resources attest to that, as does their ongoing vitality. So I'll raise a glass to CF's birthday, figuratively and now literally, as I soon as I click the "post comment" button. :-) Hope that's been helpful.

Comment by Charlie Arehart

I've really enjoyed using ColdFusion for the past 20 years. It was exciting to learn it and quickly start coming up with many ways to use it that were not even thought of with other languages. HomeSite will forever be my favorite IDE. Everything that I have used since has always been compared to HomeSite. CFML has always felt like the perfect tool for creating dynamic HTML. An idea that is still way ahead of other languages that I have worked with. Sadly, the latest version I have been able to work in is CF10 because companies I have worked for have lost confidence in the viability of ColdFusion and no longer were willing to upgrade. I have been stuck maintaining software that was the unfortunate victim of how easy it was to develop with ColdFusion. Developers that did not really know what they were doing could build applications that looked impressive but were a nightmare to maintain or were never really completed. So I have spend at least the last 8 years being the guy keeping the pieces together until companies are willing to invest in rewriting their applications in another language. It feels like I am working in a code Nursing Home waiting for the good friend I always felt ColdFusion was, to slowly die. I would really like to stay with ColdFusion and try out all the improvements and new features, but the reality seems to be that the jobs available are for the ColdFusion Nursing Home. I keep hearing about companies that want someone that knows ColdFusion so that they can help them get rid of it... At least for me, it is looking like I am going to be moving on to some over-hyped language that I will hate because all I will be thinking about will be how much easier it was to do this or that in CFML... and how much I still miss HomeSite.

Comment by JS_Webtrax